190.218.117.86 (talk) 01:30, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Actually you are the one making subjective propositions here. WebMihrimah Sultan (1522 - January 25, 1578) was the daughter of the Ottoman Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent and his wife Hrrem Sultan. Like mentioned before, popular culture adopts from what has happened in the past. No need to change the title. WebAuthor has 325 answers and 6.9M answer views Oct 9. The Tatars may have first taken her to the Crimean city of Kaffa, a major centre of the Ottoman slave trade, before she was taken to Istanbul. It is traditionally believed that Hurrem, along with her daughter Mihrimah and her son-in-law Rustem, orchestrated Mustafas execution by turning his father, the Sultan, against him. Selim could have helped Mahidevran out of guilt that he lived and became Sultan while her son did not. He was a talented soldier from his childhood. I was wrong I admitted that and removed the contents sourced from the blog. There must be only one, with correct facts that inform people with the necessary information, and the reader, not the editor, is the one who makes the interpretation. You did not saw that did you? Why does she have sultan next to her name? If he still insists, he can bring the source at the reliable sources noticeboard and ask for an opinion there. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. Sorry cant find sources now that was about 12 years ago. It is also stated that before "Haseki Sultan" all concubines used the title hatun. She often suffered from lack of money 2 until Suleimans death; Sultan Selim II later increased her income to help her. Page contents not supported in other languages. In 1561, three years after Hurrem's death, the French author Gabriel Bounin wrote a tragedy titled La Soltane. Where are the administrators of this page anyway? Concubine by definition is not a slave. [17], Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, partially suppressed the rivalry between the two women. For the first and only time in the Ottoman Empire, a female sultan exchanged letters with a king. In one of her letters to Suleiman, she informs him about the situation of the plague in the capital. She commissioned a bath, the Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse, to serve the community of worshippers in the nearby Hagia Sophia. And for your info, they all married the sultan and were legal wives, and those that weren't married were called hatun. "[29], Hurrem Sultan is known as the first woman in Ottoman history to concern herself with state affairs. Including those of John Freely. Mustafa was later accused of causing unrest. 1540. I got this text from this reference if anyone have an actual book name to cite then please update. Hello my dear friends!I'm glad to see you on my channel. Thanks to her intelligence, she acted as Suleiman's chief adviser on matters of state, and seems to have had an influence upon foreign policy and international politics. My name is Moniek and I am from the Netherlands. Teodora Maria Ungureanu Teodora Maria Ungureanu (talk) 23:19, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Teodora Maria Ungureanu Teodora Maria Ungureanu (talk) 23:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Why is she called Mahidevran Sultan in this article? She imprinted her seal and watched the council meetings through a wire mesh window. [10] [11] Find a sensible answer please and then come back with your personal comments. Scholars have wondered if Hurrem's alliance with Mihrimah Sultan and Rstem Pasha helped secure the throne for one of Hurrem's sons. In early modern Spain, she appears or is alluded to in works by Quevedo and other writers as well as in a number of plays by Lope de Vega. [18] According to Bernardo Navagero's report, as a result of the bitter rivalry a fight between the two women broke out, with Mahidevran beating Hurrem, which angered Suleiman. Let's figure it out.#sultantv #ottomanempire #magnificentcentury #ottomanempirehistory I called both the contributor and the gallery to show any link to Rosne and so far I get none. Your stubbornness of using only Peirce's provided information while neglecting other possible sources shows your own prejudice, not anyone else's. Museum of Turkish and Islamic Arts, The Hagia Sophia Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse built in 1556, Haseki Sultan of Suleiman the Magnificent, Content in this edit is translated from the existing Turkish Wikipedia article at. [i][11], Shaykh Qutb al-Din al-Nahrawali, a Meccan religious figure, who visited Istanbul in late 1557, noted in his memoirs that Hurrem Sultan was of Ruthenian origin. While "XXX son of Abdullah" maybe a son of a convert slave, you cannot say that Khalid son of Abdullah or Hussein son of Abdullah are also slaves. Mahidevran Turbesi5.jpg 320 240; 21 KB. Our ancestors said that the plague goes away once the trees shed their leaves in autumn."[26]. [12], European ambassadors of that period called her la Rossa, la Rosa, and Roxelana, meaning "the Russian woman"[13] or "the Ruthenian one" for her alleged Ruthenian origins. hurrem. In a letter to Philip II of Spain, the painter claims to have sent him a copy of this "Queen of Persia" in 1552. Chitchi, S. "Orientalist view on the Ottoman in the novel Roxalana (Hurrem Sultan) by Ukrainian author Pavlo Arhipovich Zahrebelniy". Selim II (r. 15661574) likely never held anything against Mahidevran personally. She was his mothers rival, not his. Selim II, as depicted in a m Subscribe to our weekly newsletter and stay up to date on History of Royal Women's articles! She was in the second rank after Hafsa Sultan(Valide Sultan) in the harem according to the Ottoman tradition. The title of this page should read as Mahidevran or Mahidevran Gulbahar. Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.248.138.199 (talk) 06:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], I removed a painting of Rosne Pranvere from the article. Everyone is emphasizing on only one source for the subjected woman that is of Leslie P. Peirce's and simply ignoring those sources/references/theories they don't like. Circassian or Albanian? And you Sir, just decided to crash in and make an edit. Mahidevran became his favourite woman probably when she was fifteen, and she had a son (Mustafa). Worldandhistory (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], You did not answer my first point, no where in the article does it say she belonged to a noble family, the article is now free from any claims of her being scion, the article simply focuses on her origins. Thank you 113.203.177.1 (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC) You are not helping in maintaining the neutrality, rather imposing your opinions extracted from your sources. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. Again it's just my opinion to me it looks like a fact. Thank you.113.203.163.165 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], I think both theories are correct, general logic can be used in Wikipedia IF the sources available contradicts each other, but even if she was called Sultan there is no need to mention it in the Title. The leading cause of death in subjects with preserved EF was noncardiovascular disease (49%) versus coronary heart disease (43%) for subjects with reduced EF. Amasya was one of the farthest provinces from the capital. I think she was chief consort but later lost her position though she remained first wife. Moreover, he was famous for his generosity and fair decisions. Mahidevran madegreat efforts to protect her only son from assassinations, but she could not prevent his death. As far as I have researched, every Web verifying organization has approved of it. "LUCKYEYE GROUP MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES WITH RESPECT TO THIS WEB SITE OR ITS CONTENTS, WHICH ARE PROVIDED FOR USE "AS IS." She did served as a "cheif consort" (bash Kadin) before Haseki Hurrem Sultan. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The thing is, unlike yours, I'm not fabricating a theory! The proportion of cardiovascular deaths decreased from 69% in 19791984 to His wife Kay announced via Facebook: I am sorry to make a The references you've cited present a clear inconsistency with defined Ottoman titles and therefore they are invalid.190.218.117.86 (talk) 16:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], This is the point, whether she was a main wife or not. And for your information, if you read all the wikipedia articles, all women that didn't marry the sultan stayed as hatun unless they became Valide (as Nurbanu). If that is wrong, Wikipedia should never ever cite an interview source in any other article as well. Not hesitating for a second thought, he offered his beautiful daughter, as a gift, to the young prince." Your email address will not be published. That same year ambassador Navagero wrote, It is impossible to describe how much he is loved and desired by all successors to the throne. "The Speech of Ibrahim at the Coronation of Maximilian II", Thomas Conley. You completely twisted the question and answered what I didn't ask. The information given in this page reveals that despite being called addressed as a sultana she wasn't one, and before that edit came to be the page addressed her as hatun (and many others too [1] ), which is also a title she's been given in other sources. Uzunarl, smail Hakk; Karal, Enver Ziya (1975). [42], It is believed that Hurrem was a cunning, manipulative and stony-hearted woman who would execute anyone who stood in her way. Nurbanus mosque was the first constructed in the capital by a woman of the dynasty to have two minarets. She wrote many love letters to Suleiman when he was away for campaigns. :) There is no harm in mentioning "cheif consort", specially since Sulieman have had 3 other consorts. Unless we have another source which gives us the sketch of positions of Sultan's consorts in Harem, the WEB SITE can be cited, because there is no mentioning of consort's positions and their status in their master's harem in Leslie's book. 113.203.156.141 (talk) 23:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], First of all, those references you've cited are: 1) popular culture based books 2) recent and based on art and theatrical depictions; as such, these references are unfounded and misinformed when it comes to Ottoman history. In the Istanbul harem, Hurrem became a rival to Mahidevran and her influence over the sultan soon became legendary. Again, it's just my opinion I still oppose the change of title. After her brother Sari Selim's That's all I'm requesting, for the sake of respecting Ottoman cultural heritage. Theories I presented are with facts of ottoman etiquette and evidence from History books. Learn how and when to remove this template message, CrimeanNogai slave raids in Eastern Europe, De moribus tartarorum, lituanorum et moscorum, "2 Reasons Why Hurrem Sultan and Empress Ki were similar", "Ottoman Empire History Encyclopedia - Letter H - Ottoman Turkish history with pictures - Learn Turkish", Constantinople: City of the World's Desire, 14531924, "Hrrem Sultan: A beloved wife or master manipulator? For the record, The books I referred are History books, recalled by actual accounts, I didn't cite a popular history book or a theater play. Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.101.0.179 (talk) 11:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], If the modifiers of this page can identify this reference, then please update. Simply put, a natural death is one that occurs due to an internal factor that causes the body to shut down, such as cancer, heart disease or diabetes. Osmanl tarihi, Volume 2. Hatun is not a Title at all. Alex2006 (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Keivan.f I haven't searched about mahidvran but happen to have read about her. Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.161.124.138 (talk) 14:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], SO many false claimed about Mahidevran and a daughter of Sleyman , who called Raziye. Burial. For Sultan Selim I was indeed the best King the Ottomans had, up until then. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Also, let's not forget that many of those artistic/theatrical depictions are based on rumors and fictitious creations for the sake of entertainment. I badly need a reliable source to back either claim. [20] After the death of Mustafa, Mahidevran lost her status in the palace as the mother of the heir apparent and moved to Bursa. Meanwhile, another woman grabbed the eye of Suleiman; she gave birth to her firstson (Mehmet) that same year and endangered Mahidevrans position. I, lover of the tormented heart, Muhibbi of the eyes full of tears, I am happy. Please, change the title to simply "Mahidevran"; all the other speculation can remain in the biography part. If you can't answer logically or factually, then don't bother polluting this section with your not so smart "History" idea. She died in 1558, in Istanbul and was buried in a mausoleum within the Sleymaniye Mosque complex. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Keivan, do you really have access to the proposed source? Mahidevran, concubine of Suleiman the Magnificent Birth Place: Bosporus, Turkey Birthday: 1500 Death Date: February 3, 1581(age 81) [34], Although the stories about Hurrem's role in executions of Ibrahim, Mustafa, and Kara Ahmed are very popular, actually none of them are based on first-hand sources. [2][3][4][5] She has been known by this title since Nurbano's time. [8] However it is clear,that Mahidevran Sultan also carried the title Sultan as she was the first main chief consort (Ba Kadn). Doug Weller talk 15:40, 12 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The Haseki Sultan was chief consort, and Hrrem Sultan was Sleyman's. [8] [9] Though Hurrem was more favored, Mahidevran was still a wife and mother of heir apparent. If you treat Ottoman history as merely entertainment, you're not doing your job to inform people. The precise year that she entered the harem is unknown, but scholars believe that she became Suleiman's concubine around the time he became sultan in 1520. https://books.google.com/books?id=VLVoAAAAMAAJ&dq, http://www.odatv.com/n.php?n=iste-gercek-mahidevran-0910121200, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=tjFpAAAAMAAJ&dq=mahidevran+sultan&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=mahidevran, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=JYk-AQAAIAAJ&q=mahidevran+sultan&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=ZXUQBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT95&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7ntDe0sjKAhUGZg8KHRUPAg8Q6AEIOTAG#v=onepage&q=mahidevran%20sultan&f=false, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=SAIZCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix5YWtk83KAhUMHxoKHSPbApQQ6AEIRTAI#v=onepage&q=mahidevran%20&f=false, https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=5WT1BQAAQBAJ&pg=PT240&dq=mahidevran+sultan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix5YWtk83KAhUMHxoKHSPbApQQ6AEITTAJ#v=onepage&q=mahidevran&f=false. Hurrem's influence in state affairs not only made her one of the most influential women, but also a controversial figure in Ottoman history, especially in her rivalry with Mahidevran and her son ehzade Mustafa, and the grand viziers Pargal Ibrahim Pasha and Kara Ahmed Pasha. There was a seal on the back of the letter. I think it is obvious that the exception would have been made at that time for a non-Haseki consort to be called a Sultan. A portrait of Roxelana in the British Royal Collection, c. 160070, A painting of Hurrem Sultan by a follower of Titian, 16th century, Roxelana and Sleyman the Magnificent by the German baroque painter Anton Hickel, (1780), Engraving by Johann Theodor de Bry, (1596), 16th century oil on wood painting of Hurrem Sultan, Tribute to Roxelana on 1997 Ukrainian postage stamp, Serlevha (illuminated frontispiece) from the Endowment Charter (Waqfiyya) pertaining to the architectural complex commissioned by Hrrem Sultan in the Aksaray district of Istanbul. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 22:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. Even so, a Sultan was NOT allowed to have more than 4 Kadins at a time (Brinci Kadin, Ba Kadn or Sultan Kadin was the first ranking wife), but can have as much concubines as he liked. Retrieverlove (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], "[] and the Sultan's favorite or chief consorts changed to Sultan []. At his mothers funeral, Murad was supposed to remain in the palace during the funeral. [20] Hurrem became the only partner of the ruler and received the title of Haseki, which means the favorite. Bas kadin literally means "Head Woman", and if this "head woman" status didn't exist at that time then why she has been referred as "Ba kadin" or Birinci kadin by numerous books? Categories: 1500 births. Reply[reply], Sort it out. You can cite thousands of pop culture books with erronous facts, rumours and misconceptions. In the end, Mustafa was appointed to governAmasya (close to Persian border) while Mehmet moved to Manisa. Around 1530, Mustafa was appointed to govern Manisa, as a part of his education and old Turkish tradition. In his 1551 letter to Sigismund II concerning the embassy of Piotr Opaliski, Suleiman wrote that the Ambassador had seen "Your sister and my wife." Among her first foundations were a mosque, two Quranic schools (madrassa), a fountain, and a women's hospital near the women's slave market (Avret Pazary) in Istanbul (Haseki Sultan Complex). [41], Hurrem is known to have been very generous to the poor. Hurrem Sultan makes plans to get rid of ehzade Mustafa and his mother Mahidevran Sultan as she sees them as a threat for the throne. Memorial ID. I guess the authors were inspired by Illuminatis;) (just a joke, no offense) Anyway, I can't argue with you, I can only simply ask for an admin's attention to all of your WP:OR. She was presented to Suleiman when he was still a prince. For the series' last season, she is portrayed by Turkish actress Vahide Perin. After that, although Hurrem's successor Nurbanu Sultan and her successor Safiye Sultan exchanged letters with queens, there is no other example of a female sultan who personally contacted a king other than Hurrem Sultan. Specially every Circassion origin theory. commercial banks of the capitalist states book; nicholas martin roosevelt; beiersdorf cleveland, tn closing; the difference between body, soul and spirit Breaking Ottoman tradition, he married Hurrem, making her his legal wife. Let me repeat it; why didn't popular culture ever mentioned another Hatun ranked consort a Sultan? Later, Hurrem became the first woman to remain in the sultan's court for the duration of her life. WebA cause of death is determined by a medical examiner. Suleiman probably feared the reaction of the army. The Ottoman archives and privy purse records prove that she was Mahidevran Hatun, regardless that fact that she was the mother of the crown prince or had been once a favorite of Suleiman. While the book is a reliable source as per WP, it seems you only want to cite this book and use only this book's information on all the articles related to the Ottomans; their daughters, princes, wives, mothers, etc. You can infer and speculate and theorize all you want, but history is history and I find it highly disrespectful and arrogant that you think your abstractions are worth more than the reality of events. Not interested? This article is literally the ONLY one in wikipedia to call a hatun a sultana. She was not a sultana, she was a Birinci Kadin , therefore if any "royal title" should be used to her name it should be that; this is highly misleading and causes conflict with Ottoman history. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. If "Haseki Sultan" was created solely for Hurrem when they legally married, breaking a 200 hundred tradition of not marrying, why should anyone assume that other concubines of the sultan would start using "sultan" if they didn't marry him? The source is "BBC your paintings". [25], After the death of Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, in 1534, Hurrem became the most trusted news source of Suleiman. The title of this page has to be changed and needs to be protected from any form of cultural erasure. On the contrary, I sympathize with Mahidevran Hatun. Note that I'm not saying that Mahidevran was not chief consort before the title Haseki came into use, but it's clear that she didn't continue to hold the title. Hurrem's contemporaries describe her as a woman who was strikingly good-looking, and different from everybody else because of her red hair. Some sources say she moved to Topkap, not because of the fire, but as a result of her marriage to Suleiman. I asked you to provide a source calling M's father Abdullah a Slave. Dear Phso 2,I think i have made the issue clear which is about the royal woman "Mahidevran" and you shuould not have any doubt or confusion or Question regarding this subject. Even as a consort, her power was comparable with the most powerful woman of the Imperial Harem, who by tradition was the sultan's mother or valide sultan. [11] She was to bear the majority of Suleiman's children. In Albenian Glbahar means Rosne Pravnere. There are reasons to believe that these two letters were more than just diplomatic gestures, and that Suleiman's references to brotherly or fatherly feelings were not a mere tribute to political expediency. Everyone has a right to put their opinion and I just put mine. Mahidevran Turbesi6.jpg 315 470; 18 KB. Hurrem and Mahidevran had borne Suleiman six ehzades (Ottoman princes), four of whom survived past the 1550s: Mehmed, Selim, Bayezid, and Cihangir. I am sorry but Facts do NOT leave room for doubts. Life in a Sultans harem was not glamorous and it certainly wasnt about love. WebDeaths in June 2017 passed! Glbahar (given name) 1500s births. Suleiman (r. 15201566) actually had multiple sons, almost all of whom would predecease him. By the time he became Sultan, he had three: Mahmud, Mu The name Abdullah may be used as a generic patronymic (father's name) for slave converts but this name was and is very common for any royal family as well as a common family in any Islamic dynasty. This tells how important and high ranking Birinci Kadins were (see any ottoman dictionary you like to see what Birinci Kadin means and what was their positions in early history of Ottoman.) Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.190.128 (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2 Hi, I am Worldandhistory. "She was said to have been the most beautiful girl in the dynasty and out-stood in beauty in a land which was known for it. 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